Former Principal Deputy National Security Advisor Jon Finer joins Dr. Nola Haynes for a wide-ranging conversation about America's future role in the world. From growing up in rural Vermont to helping shape U.S. foreign policy during some of the most consequential global crises of the last decade, Finer reflects on leadership, diplomacy, media, and the growing challenges facing American power.
Together, they discuss what comes after Trump, how allies and adversaries now view the United States, the rise of China, the future of Iran, misinformation, and why countries around the world are beginning to rethink their reliance on America. Plus, Finer shares the foreign policy issues he believes deserve far more attention, and the surprising soundtrack he turned to after long days in the White House.